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Old 01-12-2008, 01:22 PM   #1
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Cool The top 4 Glamour sponsors

Just a few words concerning the "big 4" of Super Model Glamour sites. The below info is complied strickly from my personal experiences and observations concerning these sponsors.

Let's look at the "Quality Super Model Babe" sponsors. (I use all four of the top four).

You have:
Met-Art
MPL Studio Cash
Bumble Cash (M&B Girls)
Medium Pimpin (Glamour Models Gone Bad)
(There are others [Playboy,Hustler,Penthouse] but they just do not have the click pulling power of the top four.)

Content quality is damn near the same on all of them. They spend some bucks on thier product and none of the girls look bad at all. From the surfer's point of view---it's all quality pink on the inside.

But there are some differences from the WM point of view.


Met-Art. Over exposed is just too tame a phrase.Google Met-Art galleries and you get 2,410,000 to choose from. That's a lot. And a good half or more of the Met-Art sites out there never get listed. And the site is not what it once was. Pressure and 2257 forced a lot of the material out and the marketing concept to change. A few people do very good with Met-Art. A few. Most just send clicks for nothing. Someone once described Met-Art to me this way--"It's the sponsor that everyone hooks up with when they first get into the business because it is the safest looking naughty product out there." I agree with that.

Here is a typical Met-Art gallery.Over 7 years with Met-Art I have managed to gather 4 sales. I do not push them hard (never had) simply because everybody else is pushing them hard. I do have a blog dedicated to Met-Art that sees one new post a day with a new gallery--but it is the blog that gets looked at closely every quarter with the view of shutting it down or changing it's focus.


MPL Studio Cash. Not nearly as over exposed but also not nearly as quality packed. Sort of like the difference between a Dillard's Store and A Sear's. Both have pretty much the same thing but the quality is just a bit off. And to me that difference is what keeps MP Studios from converting much better than it does.Also not helping is that design wise the two tend to be almost mirror images. When you see an MPL gallery you are sub-consciously looking at a Met-Art gallery.

Here is a typical MPL Studios gallery. 5 years with MPL has netted 7 sales. That's 5 years of sporadic promotion. I started using them for galleries I was submitting to TGPs. But it didn't take long to notice that every time a new gallery came out a few hundred people were submitting it the same place I was. What I have NOT done is try a blog dedicated to MPL. That night work if you could get past the Met-Art complex thing.


Bumble Cash. The primary marketing site for Bumble Cash is Mac & Bumbles. Definately different from the first two in that M&B features pornstars along with exclusive girls. They seem to have a more modern feel to their sites and they do appeal to a younger surfer (18 to 26 I believe is the target range). It seems to work well for them. An added plus is that M&B is way UNDER used on the net in general and especially in blogs. Even though some of the girls are industry standards the content is new to a lot of blogwhackers. In addition to that--M&B uses mainly American girls---not European.

Here is a typical M&B gallery. You can easily see the difference in the gallery samples and also the marketing concepts employed. My M&B blog will produce a 4 figure income yearly and a lot of the conversions are "quarterly" which pay out at 45.00. I have been with Bumble Cash for 6 years and it has been profitable all the way.


Medium Pimpin. Originally known as "Glamour Models Gone Bad" featuring a site of that name and one called Amateurs Gone Bad. The original concept was girls who went west to be "stars" and ended up being porn feed. Really successful. They have since morphed into Medium Pimpin and have added 14 more sites over the last few years (most of them solo-girl type). The majority of their content is American Girls and the quality is equal to that of the other three mentioned here. Medium Pimpin is a bit more Hardcore based though. Where the others focus on basically grace and beauty Pimpin will focus on sex with the grace and beauty there as a prop.

Here is a typical Medium Pimpin gallery. I have been with them for 6 years and usually pull 6 to 10 sales a year. This is another sponsor that is way underused in blogs and I think a blog dedicated to each of their sites would work well.


Anybody wanting a link to these sponsors just say so and I will post one here. Sub-affiliate help is available of course.


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There used to be a long rant about MP and how they handle things. Now removed as that would actually damage my case in the event legal actions happen (against them, they broke the law!)

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Sorry for the Sunday morning negativity, I just think they are not nice people.
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Old 01-13-2008, 11:43 AM   #5
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Sorry for the Sunday morning negativity, I just think they are not nice people.
That's not being negative man. That's really the idea of all this. Exchanging information.

Not everyone has had the same experiences with every sponsor and it helps those who are new to the game or looking for someone new to promote to have all sides of the coin presented.

I have heard rumors about MP but have never experienced the problems that I heard about. So I view them in light of how they have treated me. Doesn't mean the rumors were true or untrue. Just means I never got hit by anything.

Besides Markul---I LIKE to hear from people who have different opinions than I do. It makes me think and act. (For instance--I had forgotten the MP situation. Now i will look at it again and ask some questions.)



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Old 01-14-2008, 04:45 AM   #6
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Garcia.....
I have a blog dedicated like you to Met Art galleries.
Over the last year or so Ive grabbed 8 total sales.....35%rebill ratio and even 2 this month.

Maybe I just happen to have the right girls at the right time up.

Not a huge amount of sales but its something to build on.


As far as M&B.
I tried some time ago to signup for their program.
I was using B.L.**E.R at the time and they told me i could signup for their program at the time.
Not sure if their policy has changed or if i need a dedicated URL of my own to use their program.
Will they allow Thumblogger hosted blogs? I dont know. If they allow them, post your aff link and ill try to signup again.

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There used to be a long rant about MP and how they handle things. Now removed as that would actually damage my case in the event legal actions happen (against them, they broke the law!)
Hi Karkul, you can elaborate more if you want too. Anything that may disadvantage your fellow webmasters should be posted as a warning for the rest of us to be careful when dealing with sponsors who are likeky to act naughty.
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Old 01-15-2008, 09:39 AM   #8
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Hi Karkul, you can elaborate more if you want too. Anything that may disadvantage your fellow webmasters should be posted as a warning for the rest of us to be careful when dealing with sponsors who are likeky to act naughty.
Yea... well it's a strange case, basically what happened was that I opened up a forum (link is in signature) and posted a message in a few spam forums (including MPs) I then stop by their forum again later and notice that a moderator were accusing me of copyright infringement.

I ask what's wrong (in a rather panicky way as I certainly have no intention of violating the DMCA), locate the one post in question and delete it. I then changed the size of the links to a HUGE one so the apparently blind moderator can read it (they were all there in the first place).

In the mean time I get banned and accused of a few things amongst others building a network of stolen content and they name the country I come from and claim that's from whois database when I report it (got banned right after reporting her post... funny who they work together on covering their asses with lies).

Now ALL my domains are under whois protection so I know this moderator checked my IP and disclosed my location based on said IP - that is very illegal and can get your jailed in my country. I am still considering if I should file a complaint with the network that MP is on, but US legislation on this area is not something I'm strong in.

Anyhow, after that. I go over ALL posts on the blogs they mention (took hours, several hundred posts + pages) and find a few posts where the import gone wrong and thus the links to the sponsor were broken (this can happen with zippedblogs, seen it a few times before). Those were cleaned up ofc.

I contact MP on ICQ and they tell me I'm only banned from the board and not their program. They promised me they'd review everything and get back to me. They haven't. I've sent multiple e-mails to both Kevin and their general e-mail... nothing back.

Now not only is their logic deeply flawed, why would I steal content one place and then promote it the other...? why in the world would I on purpose NOT link my content with the people who pay me? I don't get it. There is no logic.

If I really was stealing content, shouldn't they ban me from their program where I got the content in the first place?

It's moronic... they threatened Twan in the thread too, in any case it's quite clear that the moderators in question are more important than their affiliates and as such I'll stop promoting them . They also haven't gotten back to me and I've told them numerous times to present evidence of their claims or remove the thread.... and they just ignore me.

Yes it's a storm in a glass of water, but I don't usually back down from fights and I absolutely HATE IT when people think they can accuse me of shit and not document it - especially when I get banned and they KEEP making claims in the thread after banning me... WTF is up with that?

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Looking for "glam" I would suggest: GlamCash
... they also have a funny little system with one $1 share in the company
for every signup : ) Ok, not a big deal but fun for us Wall Street nerds!


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Just a few words concerning the "big 4" of Super Model Glamour sites. The below info is complied strickly from my personal experiences and observations concerning these sponsors.

Let's look at the "Quality Super Model Babe" sponsors. (I use all four of the top four).

You have:
Met-Art
MPL Studio Cash
Bumble Cash (M&B Girls)
Medium Pimpin (Glamour Models Gone Bad)
(There are others [Playboy,Hustler,Penthouse] but they just do not have the click pulling power of the top four.)

Content quality is damn near the same on all of them. They spend some bucks on thier product and none of the girls look bad at all. From the surfer's point of view---it's all quality pink on the inside.

But there are some differences from the WM point of view.


Met-Art. Over exposed is just too tame a phrase.Google Met-Art galleries and you get 2,410,000 to choose from. That's a lot. And a good half or more of the Met-Art sites out there never get listed. And the site is not what it once was. Pressure and 2257 forced a lot of the material out and the marketing concept to change. A few people do very good with Met-Art. A few. Most just send clicks for nothing. Someone once described Met-Art to me this way--"It's the sponsor that everyone hooks up with when they first get into the business because it is the safest looking naughty product out there." I agree with that.

Here is a typical Met-Art gallery.Over 7 years with Met-Art I have managed to gather 4 sales. I do not push them hard (never had) simply because everybody else is pushing them hard. I do have a blog dedicated to Met-Art that sees one new post a day with a new gallery--but it is the blog that gets looked at closely every quarter with the view of shutting it down or changing it's focus.


MPL Studio Cash. Not nearly as over exposed but also not nearly as quality packed. Sort of like the difference between a Dillard's Store and A Sear's. Both have pretty much the same thing but the quality is just a bit off. And to me that difference is what keeps MP Studios from converting much better than it does.Also not helping is that design wise the two tend to be almost mirror images. When you see an MPL gallery you are sub-consciously looking at a Met-Art gallery.

Here is a typical MPL Studios gallery. 5 years with MPL has netted 7 sales. That's 5 years of sporadic promotion. I started using them for galleries I was submitting to TGPs. But it didn't take long to notice that every time a new gallery came out a few hundred people were submitting it the same place I was. What I have NOT done is try a blog dedicated to MPL. That night work if you could get past the Met-Art complex thing.


Bumble Cash. The primary marketing site for Bumble Cash is Mac & Bumbles. Definately different from the first two in that M&B features pornstars along with exclusive girls. They seem to have a more modern feel to their sites and they do appeal to a younger surfer (18 to 26 I believe is the target range). It seems to work well for them. An added plus is that M&B is way UNDER used on the net in general and especially in blogs. Even though some of the girls are industry standards the content is new to a lot of blogwhackers. In addition to that--M&B uses mainly American girls---not European.

Here is a typical M&B gallery. You can easily see the difference in the gallery samples and also the marketing concepts employed. My M&B blog will produce a 4 figure income yearly and a lot of the conversions are "quarterly" which pay out at 45.00. I have been with Bumble Cash for 6 years and it has been profitable all the way.


Medium Pimpin. Originally known as "Glamour Models Gone Bad" featuring a site of that name and one called Amateurs Gone Bad. The original concept was girls who went west to be "stars" and ended up being porn feed. Really successful. They have since morphed into Medium Pimpin and have added 14 more sites over the last few years (most of them solo-girl type). The majority of their content is American Girls and the quality is equal to that of the other three mentioned here. Medium Pimpin is a bit more Hardcore based though. Where the others focus on basically grace and beauty Pimpin will focus on sex with the grace and beauty there as a prop.

Here is a typical Medium Pimpin gallery. I have been with them for 6 years and usually pull 6 to 10 sales a year. This is another sponsor that is way underused in blogs and I think a blog dedicated to each of their sites would work well.


Anybody wanting a link to these sponsors just say so and I will post one here. Sub-affiliate help is available of course.


I was just going through the forum this morning and wanted to comment on this. Youre absolutely right about Met Art. I have one Met Art blog which is "pretty" but I wonder if I'll ever get any sales. It sounds like in general the sales are low for Met Art. I realized early on from reading this forum that there's no way I could make anything from having one blog, let alone a Met Art blog. Im not sure who actually joins them....obviously they are huge, so somebody must keep them in business. Im wondering if targeting female bi/tran audience would work well, rather than straight guys. Just my .02 for anyone out there who has a Met Art blog. For anyone who wants to look, here's my other three. I think getting up four blogs in less than about two weeks isn't bad for somebody who never used thumblogger before, or even had any experience with adult affiliates. Keep in mind that all blogs are in development stages, no sales of course yet, and a lot more work to do, but for whatever it's worth to encourage others who might be struggling, I've gotten up a lot in a relatively short span of time:

http://teenmethotties.thumblogger.com
http://grandpasfuckteenies.thumblogger.com
http://xxxpreggomovies.thumblogger.com
http://enematheater.thumblogger.com

I plan to expand each niche area and eventually add a hub site as Garcia so brilliantly suggested in a prior post. Again all are in early stages. So far, it would appear that the "grandpa" site is getting the most traffic, not sure as I"m new to interpreting google analytics. Just wanted to update everyone on the progress and welcome suggestions. Now another 50 or so and I'll be set, right? LOL.....
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